Why Philly is the Only City That Doesn't Call a Hoagie a Sub?

Why Philly is the Only City That Doesn't Call a Hoagie a Sub?

Why Philly is the Only City That Doesn't Call a Hoagie a Sub?

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PhillyBite10PHILADELPHIA - Every major American city claims a superior version of the submarine sandwich, whether it’s a grinder, a hero, a po'boy, or a sub. Yet, in the fierce, food-proud metropolis of Philadelphia, you will rarely, if ever, hear a local order a "sub." Philadelphia is the only major city where this long, crusty roll piled high with meats, cheeses, and toppings is almost exclusively known as a Hoagie.


This linguistic exclusivity isn't an accident; it's a testament to the city's unique cultural history and its unyielding pride in local tradition.

The Origin Story: From Hog Island to Hoagie

The most popular (and messy) origin story links the sandwich directly to Philadelphia's history and its large Italian-American community.



  • Hog Island Connection: The most widely accepted theory traces the term back to Hog Island, located in the Delaware River near South Philadelphia. During World War I, the Hog Island Shipyard was a massive operation employing thousands of workers. Italian immigrant cooks are said to have prepared the sandwiches for the shipyard workers.
  • The Nickname: Because the sandwich was large, hearty, and somewhat curved (or perhaps because the workers ate like "hogs"), they became known as "Hog Island Sandwiches," which was quickly shortened to "hoggies" and eventually became the signature "hoagie."
  • The Timeframe: The term gained widespread popularity in Philadelphia during the 1920s and 1930s, cementing its use long before the term "submarine sandwich" became popular nationwide.

It's a Hoagie, Not a Sub: The Cultural Divide

In Philadelphia, the distinction is more than semantics; it's a cultural litmus test.

  • Uncompromising Identity: The insistence on the term "hoagie" is part of Philadelphia's overall resistance to generic labels. Similar to how a sparkling beverage is always a "soda" (never a "pop"), or how Italian water ice is "wooder ice," the hoagie is " hoagie " in the local dialect.
  • The Construction Matters: For a Philadelphian, an authentic hoagie implies a specific construction: a fresh Italian roll with a slight chew, high-quality sliced Italian meats (like capicola, mortadella, and salami), sharp provolone, and a vinaigrette dressing. While the components can vary (creating the famous Italian Hoagie or the Turkey Hoagie), the name remains constant.

The Philly Sandwich TrinitHoagiehoagie stHoagies is one of the three pillars of Philadelphia's sandwich identity, alongside the two other iconic, often hotly debated, creations:

  1. The Cheesesteak: Thinly sliced ribeye, melted cheese (Whiz, Provolone, or American), on a long roll.
  2. The Roast Pork Sandwich: Roast pork sliced thin, often topped with sharp provolone and garlicky broccoli rabe, also served on a hoagie roll.
  3. The Hoagie: The signature cold Italian sandwich.

This triad demonstrates why Philadelphia has such a strong sense of culinary self. Hoagie is a sub—it's a product of local history, dialect, and the city's unwavering confidence in its own unique identity.



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